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vcoolwater - March 18, 2008 09:06 PM (GMT)
I saw the episode live this morning. Its really sad episode. I give couple of spoilers












Spoilers:

Miki scarifice herself to save Honey - At least she died on her terms and in a peaceful way. :(

Tanaka is the only villian left and she is controling Yuki. Did anyone guess the Tanaka is last one standing of the four main villians when the show first started? :blink:

Thally - March 18, 2008 11:17 PM (GMT)
SPOILER! IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT DON'T READ!






























No I really didn't see it coming! Though I hope Miki can come back again! If they could bring Watari back so many times even though he's a cyborg, they can bring her back again! I almost cried watching the ep this morning TwT

Hatori.Miki - March 19, 2008 12:03 AM (GMT)
my favorite couple spoiler:
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee36/br...mayumiemiki.jpg

your spoiler vcoolwater was sad ;[
broke my heart

sorry for d bad english

EDIT: vcoolwater you can upload the raw of ep 24 on veoh??

Thally - March 20, 2008 12:00 AM (GMT)
*cries a river of teeeeears!* T_______________________________T

apterous - March 20, 2008 04:34 AM (GMT)
The raw is up on D-Addicts. It may take longer than usual to translate if we decide to translate Miki's whole theme song (that plays halfway through), but luckily we have the printed lyrics...

candyman808 - March 20, 2008 04:39 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Thally @ Mar 20 2008, 12:00 AM)
*cries a river of teeeeears!* T_______________________________T

Don't Cry.. I pretty sure there's a Chance Miki is Alive. Watch around 20:45 .. Kinda weird for a Dead Person to Cry isn't it?

avatarthe - March 20, 2008 10:58 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (candyman808 @ Mar 20 2008, 04:39 AM)
QUOTE (Thally @ Mar 20 2008, 12:00 AM)
*cries a river of teeeeears!* T_______________________________T

Don't Cry.. I pretty sure there's a Chance Miki is Alive. Watch around 20:45 .. Kinda weird for a Dead Person to Cry isn't it?

Even if that's true, the added drowning doesn't help....

candyman808 - March 20, 2008 11:50 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (avatarthe @ Mar 20 2008, 10:58 AM)
QUOTE (candyman808 @ Mar 20 2008, 04:39 AM)
QUOTE (Thally @ Mar 20 2008, 12:00 AM)
*cries a river of teeeeears!* T_______________________________T

Don't Cry.. I pretty sure there's a Chance Miki is Alive. Watch around 20:45 .. Kinda weird for a Dead Person to Cry isn't it?

Even if that's true, the added drowning doesn't help....

That's why they leave you Hanging.. Looks like she Drowned. or Did she? There's Always Possibilities. Miki is Suppose to be already dead after Honey is Revived.. Really is Weird that She tears after all that time. To me it's a Sign that she is Still Alive. I never give up on Miki.

Hatori.Miki - March 20, 2008 12:36 PM (GMT)
i hope that
Miki, plz, still alive! xD

vcoolwater - March 20, 2008 04:08 PM (GMT)
Candyman - I think the tears are a blooper. Most likely it was the actress' tears. I have seen it on many american shows. Miki is dead- this time I am sure. The only possible thing is Honey scarficing herself to bring back Miki and Yuki (predicting will also die)

Hatori.Miki - I finally downloaded episode 24 from daddicts. Do you want me still upload it to veoh?

apterous - March 20, 2008 06:12 PM (GMT)
WARNING: ZOMG LOTSA EP 24 SPOILERS AND SPECULATION ON EP 25!


I'm pretty sure the tears were Karasugawa's tears, not Miki's. The way they presented it, I'm pretty sure that she's dead this time. Her first 'death' was a little too sudden, but the whole "falling into the pond together" thing with Karasugawa gives it "artistic" closure for both characters. Basically, Miki and Mayumi are gone and no one can do anything about it.

They kill off, like, everyone who probably will die in the series in this episode. I was giddy that thrice-undead Watari got a last SHIT!!! in there, and that his last words didn't seem to relate to a defective reconstruction. Nakajyou'd better be gone, Hikaru was really pissing me off; I missed Giza-kun. I won't miss Mayumi's egg thing too much. And of course, there was the drawn-out goodbye to the sacrificed hero.

Meanwhile, I'd miss Mr. Tanaka too much if he died (he's damn cool, I think the actor played Spider-Man in the 70's sentai show that someone wanted us to fansub awhile back), who knows about Mrs. Tanaka (she doesn't seem designed to die any sort of glorious death, though I could see her appropriately dying Wile E. Coyote style), and Yuki prolly won't die because it was Miki's dying wish that Hayami tell Honey to save her. Can't go against the dying wish of the Fallen Hero, can we? I guess we can only hope (KILL YUKI KILL YUKI PLEEEEEEEASE).

It's too bad, this was looking like an alternate origins story for Sister Jill, and I hope that the Tanaka's at least call the controlled Yuki "Sister Jill" out of some sort of reference to the original material. And who knows, maybe the "Blue Honey" will be closer to the personality of the '70's anime Honey, since she is a combination of parts from sweetheart Honey and cool-headed Miki.

And maybe I'm hoping for too much depth from the last episode. <.<;;;

Hatori.Miki - March 20, 2008 06:37 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (vcoolwater @ Mar 20 2008, 04:08 PM)
Hatori.Miki - I finally downloaded episode 24 from daddicts. Do you want me still upload it to veoh?

if you can i want ^^
thanks

vcoolwater - March 20, 2008 08:32 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Hatori.Miki @ Mar 20 2008, 06:37 PM)
QUOTE (vcoolwater @ Mar 20 2008, 04:08 PM)
Hatori.Miki - I finally downloaded episode 24 from daddicts. Do you want me still upload it to veoh?

if you can i want ^^
thanks

Its done, I just uploaded the raw for episode 24 :)

Hatori.Miki - March 20, 2008 09:08 PM (GMT)
thank you so much!!!! *-*

PantherClaw - March 20, 2008 10:41 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (vcoolwater @ Mar 20 2008, 08:32 PM)
QUOTE (Hatori.Miki @ Mar 20 2008, 06:37 PM)
QUOTE (vcoolwater @ Mar 20 2008, 04:08 PM)
Hatori.Miki - I finally downloaded episode 24 from daddicts. Do you want me still upload it to veoh?

if you can i want ^^
thanks

Its done, I just uploaded the raw for episode 24 :)

I don't see it.

vcoolwater - March 20, 2008 11:52 PM (GMT)
Here is the link for the RAW: Cutie Honey 24 raw

Also you have to turn the family filter off for it to show up Veoh's search engine. I chose to make 18+ because of the nudity and basically Mayumi and her perverse ways. I guess I will lose viewers but I want to be responsible

PantherClaw - March 20, 2008 11:55 PM (GMT)
Okay, thanks.

PantherClaw - March 21, 2008 01:11 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (vcoolwater @ Mar 18 2008, 09:06 PM)
Tanaka is the only villian left and she is controling Yuki.  Did anyone guess the Tanaka is last one standing of the four main villians when the show first started? :blink:


Actually, am glad that Her and her husband are (so far) the only ones standing. I thought they didn't get enough screentime.

Well, this episode proves alot of things:

Miki was destined to die, sadly, regardless of her being revived

Mayumi, at least, died with the one she loved (?)

Watari am GOING MISS YOU!!!!!! :( I wanted him to kick ass as his own self one last time.

But the second best part about this episode is that Nakajyou/Giza/Hikaru is dead YAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY!!!!! I AM SO HAPPY!!!!!!!

Also, one last thing, I really like Yuki's hairstyle and make-up. it sort of reminds me of Mayumi's heavy make-up during the first few episodes with her.

Hope the finale be as great as this one.

Hatori.Miki - March 21, 2008 01:55 AM (GMT)
no!! i dont wanna mayumi dead T.T~

this episode was so sad..

and i want yuki dead... lol

[sorry for d bad english]

vcoolwater - March 21, 2008 02:10 AM (GMT)
I actually dont want Yuki dead. Android parents spoiled her and made who she is today - she knows no difference. I really think her soul can be saved. Miki's scarfice will not go to waste- She died so Honey can save Yuki.

Edit: I also plan upload the raw version of finale when it is released next week

PantherClaw - March 21, 2008 02:47 AM (GMT)
Yes, oh god please do so, the tension is killing me. Also, I don't want Yuki to die, but I don't know it may or may not happen.

Hatori.Miki - March 21, 2008 03:03 AM (GMT)
i dont like yuki.. so.. whatever.. hehe
yes, upload the last episode raw!! ^^

candyman808 - March 22, 2008 02:28 PM (GMT)
Well There's only one more Episode Left... Still I always have hope .. this whole thing of them Dying and coming back so many times is really confuseing .. So I still think Miki is still alive. If she is she will be back. As far as Yuki.. I kinda like her being the bitch that she is... As for her turning to Sister Jill is still confusing.. Cause she still has the Honey Flash to change to her Altered Ego. If Miki doesn't come back.. I have a gut feeling she is still in the final Episode in Spirit or as a Ghost. Cant wait to see the how Honey Changes. This is going to be very interesting.

vcoolwater - March 22, 2008 02:33 PM (GMT)
Atleast Miki died peacefully and on her terms. Mayumi only brought alive temp. - she would have experianced same horrific death again.

The only disappointing part: Why did they give her an ex boyfriend- when they never showed him again after episode 17.

avatarthe - March 22, 2008 04:29 PM (GMT)
I guess this could be a spoiler if I am right, so read on with that in mind....





















QUOTE (candyman808 @ Mar 22 2008, 02:28 PM)
Well There's only one more Episode Left... Still I always have hope .. this whole thing of them Dying and coming back so many times is  really confuseing .. So I still think Miki is still alive. If she is she will be back. As far as Yuki.. I kinda like her being the bitch that she is... As for her turning to Sister Jill is still confusing.. Cause she still has the Honey Flash to change to her Altered Ego. If Miki doesn't come back.. I have a gut feeling she is still in the final Episode in Spirit or as a Ghost. Cant wait to see the how Honey Changes. This is going to be very interesting.

I think Misty Honey... I mean Sister Miki is gone for good as a individual character, but we may see her... "influence" in another hyper character in episode 25...

Just an educated guess, based on two leaked photos from episode 25 and the animated Cutie Honey Flash series plot.

vcoolwater - March 24, 2008 04:05 PM (GMT)
Episode 24 is out - just one more left :(

candyman808 - March 24, 2008 07:31 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (avatarthe @ Mar 22 2008, 04:29 PM)
I guess this could be a spoiler if I am right, so read on with that in mind....





















QUOTE (candyman808 @ Mar 22 2008, 02:28 PM)
Well There's only one more Episode Left... Still I always have hope .. this whole thing of them Dying and coming back so many times is  really confuseing .. So I still think Miki is still alive. If she is she will be back. As far as Yuki.. I kinda like her being the bitch that she is... As for her turning to Sister Jill is still confusing.. Cause she still has the Honey Flash to change to her Altered Ego. If Miki doesn't come back.. I have a gut feeling she is still in the final Episode in Spirit or as a Ghost. Cant wait to see the how Honey Changes. This is going to be very interesting.

I think Misty Honey... I mean Sister Miki is gone for good as a individual character, but we may see her... "influence" in another hyper character in episode 25...

Just an educated guess, based on two leaked photos from episode 25 and the animated Cutie Honey Flash series plot.

What 2 leaked photos?

vcoolwater - March 24, 2008 07:41 PM (GMT)
I think he was referring to spoliers pics thread. I find it intresting that finale is called Warriors of Love and not Warrior of Love. I think they are referring to all three girls -not just Honey

digital_ameko - March 25, 2008 07:29 PM (GMT)
Even though this episode was sad (I think i cried a little) I have to bitch a little.

Watari.. my awsome watari.. should have stayed dead when he died a long time ago. I was gald to see him back to normall... but he shut down.. why keep him in the series?

Nakajo... was to comidic to keep in. I dont' think he should have ever goten into the whole crossdressing thing. He shouldhave just died. We have the fish people (sorry forgot their names) to keep the comidy in there.. we didn't need nakajo..

Who whould have flippin known that the fish duo would be the last panther claw standing. Out of right feild.

They keep trading lives... this probably should have only been done once. It got a little repetive.

Don't get me wrong, I love the series.. some things just bothered me and i wanted a yay or a nay from my fellow CHtL lovers. Do you agree? disagree?

vcoolwater - March 25, 2008 08:02 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (digital_ameko @ Mar 25 2008, 07:29 PM)
Even though this episode was sad (I think i cried a little) I have to bitch a little.

Watari.. my awsome watari.. should have stayed dead when he died a long time ago. I was gald to see him back to normall... but he shut down.. why keep him in the series?

Nakajo... was to comidic to keep in. I dont' think he should have ever goten into the whole crossdressing thing. He shouldhave just died. We have the fish people (sorry forgot their names) to keep the comidy in there.. we didn't need nakajo..

Who whould have flippin known that the fish duo would be the last panther claw standing. Out of right feild.

They keep trading lives... this probably should have only been done once. It got a little repetive.

Don't get me wrong, I love the series.. some things just bothered me and i wanted a yay or a nay from my fellow CHtL lovers. Do you agree? disagree?

I agree with some of the points:

Making watari into android was pointless. It looked like the writers did not know what do with his character but wanted to keep the actor around.

Also Hikaru was such annoying character and instead they should have concetrate on Tanaka and her Husband. Also I expected more from Honey falling for Giza plot than turning him into an annoying cross dresser.

The whole lets trade lives shows how Miki and Honey care about each other- but it was repitative - especially when they both went to Mayumi.

I am happy the Tanaka and her husband are the last villians, since they got so little screen time compare to the other three.

Kargor - March 27, 2008 11:55 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (vcoolwater @ Mar 22 2008, 02:33 PM)
The only disappointing part: Why did they give her an ex boyfriend- when they never showed him again after episode 17.

I *guess* it is simply an attempt to show that she once had a normal life. I wouldn't try to read anything into it; his actual appearance (outside her flashbacks) merely proved that the flashbacks were real.




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